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Post by kore on May 11, 2012 14:57:59 GMT -8
Not to get RL-political...
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Post by reiphil on Jun 13, 2012 7:47:44 GMT -8
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Post by reiphil on Jun 27, 2012 8:46:44 GMT -8
Discuss: Personally I don't think Tyrion is chaotic good. Neutral good at best, neutral evil at worst. Jaqan is a good choice for true neutral, though I may argue that Varys could be true neutral as well, as he plays the role of both good and evil in the name of the realm. Cersei isn't lawful evil either. She belongs with her kid in the chaotic evil realm. Lawful evil might be more reserved for Little Finger, I believe, who uses the law as a platform for success. He's underhanded, sure, but nowhere near being neutral about it. He's all about himself.
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Post by kore on Jun 27, 2012 10:52:20 GMT -8
Well, you did post this one last year and I think it is more accurate: vincevsgary.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=524&page=2#7082Personally I don't think Tyrion is chaotic good. Neutral good at best, neutral evil at worst. Jaqan is a good choice for true neutral, though I may argue that Varys could be true neutral as well, as he plays the role of both good and evil in the name of the realm. Cersei isn't lawful evil either. She belongs with her kid in the chaotic evil realm. Lawful evil might be more reserved for Little Finger, I believe, who uses the law as a platform for success. He's underhanded, sure, but nowhere near being neutral about it. He's all about himself. Tyrion: I think chaotic good is appropriate. He has demonstrated his goodness on several occassions, whether through his interactions with Sansa (a member of the family that is enemy to his own) or his criticism of his own family (Joeffrey, Cersei, etc.). However, he won't let rules or decorum get in the way of having a little fun. Varys: ... As I'm thinking about this, there has to be some metric by which one measures/defines something/someone as good or evil within the context of the world. The lawful-chaotic differentiation seems simpler to me: by what means is an individual willing to carry their goals, do the ends justify the means (chaotic) or is the rule of law the only thing that matters (lawful)? Where does "upholding the realm" rank on the scale of bad to good? What if the realm is oppressive to the majority of the inhabitants? Then upholding the realm may fall into the evil axis. Of course, my reasoning here suggests that the "greater good" is the metric by which good is defined which could be up for debate. Anyway, there are far more things that I have to contribute that I don't have time for at this moment, so I won't be able to write out my justification for each of the following: Eddard: lawful good Jon Snow: neutral good Tyrion: chaotic good Varys: chaotic good Brienne: lawful neutral Jaqen: true neutral Craster (the wildling with the daughter-wives): chaotic neutral Lord Baelish: lawful evil Tywin: neutral evil Cersei: chaotic evil Jeoffrey: chaotic evil
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Post by kore on Jan 15, 2013 17:16:07 GMT -8
WTF?!
I just finished the Arya VI chapter in "A Storm of Swords" where Lord Beric duels the Hound...that was badass! I kind of suspected as much from Lord Beric given the tales of his death and his religious affiliation. Awesome!
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Post by kore on Jan 25, 2013 22:18:21 GMT -8
WTF?! ...again.
Just finished chapter of the wedding feast...the hell.
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Post by reiphil on Mar 6, 2013 14:49:03 GMT -8
hahahaha
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Post by kore on Mar 6, 2013 20:18:49 GMT -8
*snicker*
BTW, A Feast for Crows, what a departure from the previous 3 books. I understand the expository purpose, but not having Tyrion, Snow, Dani, or Bran chapters is strange; nothing at the wall. The gradual development of Arya's character is great and Cercei's grab for power that seems to have a bit of madness behind it is interesting to watch unfold.
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Post by kore on May 6, 2013 13:58:56 GMT -8
Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but the meet-and-greet between Thoros and Melisandre never happened in the books, correct? I'm about 80% done with book 5 and I know the series is jumping around a bit to keep chronological order (e.g. Theon's story), but I'm fairly certain we're passed any overlap in this regard. I'm guessing the show is replacing one bastard of Robert with another for the purposes of what's about to happen next with the leeches.
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Post by reiphil on May 13, 2013 13:22:24 GMT -8
No, Micah, that did not happen in the books. But anyways... more fluff. My favorite chapter from the books: i.imgur.com/pQJ8peK.jpg
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Post by reiphil on Jun 5, 2013 12:20:45 GMT -8
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Post by kore on Jun 5, 2013 18:56:32 GMT -8
Ohhh, too soon. ;-)
BTW, have you seen the reaction videos of some of the uninitiated?
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Post by frobones on Jun 5, 2013 21:56:02 GMT -8
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Post by reiphil on Jun 6, 2013 6:13:46 GMT -8
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Post by kore on Jun 6, 2013 7:28:23 GMT -8
LOL!
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